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What it is not: relaxed, or relaxing; comfortable, cushy, or soft; mass-market-oriented; prosaic; sensible; easy to get used to; or in any way gentle in premise.
What it is: remarkably smooth of engine (bless the genius of Bob Trigg, who designed the Commando); rewarding once familiar; a fantastic stopper; oil-thirsty; fast, within the limits imposed by tractability; visually startling; intensely personal; reliable; and a remarkably successful and well thought-out hot-rod.

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Sunset Boulevard, heading west from Brentwood towards Pacific Palisades in moderate traffic. The road, a non-divided four-laner, lots of off-camber, smooth corners, no smog, temperature about 75 degrees. You watch the traffic around you, and you can see the cars slow but struggling with the turns, bodies shifting on their undercarriages, front tires curled under and groping, people moving around within swaying towards the outside of the turns, the cars' rear bumpers jerking up when the brake-lights come on; you can visualize the car passengers clutching door-handles and dashboards and waiting anxiously for the road to straighten out.

And you're carving, out there on Sunset, precisely, playing Calvin Rayborn loose among the radishes, red jacket, red helmet, a fire-engine-red motorcycle, hands down low, feet up high, knees working on the gas tank, notching a succession of perfect shifts, steering the motorcycle rather than merely leaning it over, tinkering with the precision that the motorcycle demands and responds to, fooling with the enormous torque that Paul Dunstall has given an already torquey engine, trailing behind you the most beautiful, rich, deep, smooth exhaust note this side of Milwaukee, listening to the hiss of the centerstand as it kisses the pavement going around right-handers, feeling solid resistance as the sidestand grounds on turns to the left. Dunstall's 810 Norton Sprint: this is where it belongs, this is where it belongs: out where other people can see it.

For a hot-rod (American terminology, or close enough, for England's Cafe Racer), the mighty 810 is surprising in its restraint. One gets the impression that, had he wanted to do so, Dunstall could have built the 810 to be quite a bit faster. But then it would have lost reliability, it would have become hard to start (which it isn't), it would have been a handful to ride, and it would have been lots noisier. As it is, it is well-integrated for a semi-custom, conservative mechanically, and not as punishing as you would expect.

But you can't buy one. Not complete, not in this country. You could go to England, have Paul do one up to your specifications, and bring it back with you under the Personal Export provisions. Or you could buy all the parts from Dunstall and do one up yourself.

Here's how Paul goes about it. He buys a complete Norton Commando, strips off all the standard parts that he plans to replace, and sells them back to Norton-Villiers: parts like the gas tank, seat, handlebars, sliders, cylinder assembly, pistons, front brake, exhaust system, valves, cam followers, foot controls, and front fender. He then installs 1/8" larger intake valves, his own guides and springs, reshapes the combustion chamber to accommodate a cylinder assembly with 3mm more bore and about 10 pounds less weight, decreases the intake valve angle from 28 degrees to 261/2 degrees from the vertical, polishes and re-contours the ports, hogs out the intake manifolds, sticks in his own lightweight cam-followers, and adds a high-pressure oil feed to the rocker assemblies; the engine uses, of course, Paul's own lightweight 10-1 cast pistons (the crank assembly doesn't have to be rebalanced), and a pair of 32mm Amal Concentric carburetors. Which just about does it for the engine.

The tank and seat, both beautifully rendered in color-impregnated fiberglass, replace the stock Norton items. The seat is secured only by a pair of tabs which a pair of large knurled aluminum hand knobs attach to the upper shock mounts, and an additional tab which rests on the frame loop used on the stocker to support the rear fender and the taillight assembly. The tank is held by rubber-doughnut-bushed bolts in front and a rubber band looping under the backbone tube behind.

Semi-clip-ons are used instead of standard handlebars, the front fender is Dunstall's own lightweight fiberglass item, and the slick dual disc front brakes come from Dun-stall as well.

Farther back, aluminum mounting plates locate the rear-set brake and shift mechanisms—plates which are less attractive but more competition-looking than the stock polished Norton forgings. The plates also support (in rubber bushings) Dr. Gordon Blair's patented two-into-one-back-into-two exhaust system, one of the bike's more pleasing aspects.

What's left? Norton's fabled Commando frame, Roadholder forks, the engine's short-block, Norton-Girling rear shock absorbers with slightly heavier springs, and the stock rear brake assembly, reduced in effectiveness by a variation in leverage at the foot pedal.

The bike takes a lot of getting used to. An historic imprecision in low-speed metering accuracy by the Amal carburetors means, simply, that the bike stalls a lot before you get used to it. But the bike starts easily, even if it is rough to kick over—that is, it starts easily if you know what you're doing: just the right amount of throttle, and just the right amount of choke. (The choke lever is mounted on a stub of capped handlebar tubing clamped in the stock handlebar position on the top triple-clamp. A good way to use the handlebar bosses, but a bit heavier than necessary.) The right footpeg has to be folded up before you can try to start the engine; and when it's finally running, you have to be careful returning the kickstarter lever to its normal position. If you aren't, your toe will contact the underside of the shift lever, and before you know it, the transmission has been bumped into first and you've stalled again. Don't worry about it; the first time it happens, you'll be so damned mad that it'll never happen again.

Once underway, you can't help feeling like a gen-you-wine roadracer. It's a neat feeling, within limits. The bike, face it, is a bit of a handful in town, what with its reluctance to idle and the fact that the seat gets you pretty high up in the air, which makes footing around difficult for a six-footer and nearly impossible for somebody five-feet-eight. Additionally, the seat offers minimal padding, and what padding it does have tends to slide around under its covering and ultimately migrate towards the rear, where the passenger sits (who has an enormous amount of room, but nothing except the operator to hang onto).

But what makes the 810 most awkward in the city is the seating position. The footpegs are a solid 6-8 inches behind their stock location, and the handlebars are lower, farther to the front, and closer together than on a production Commando. So you support most of your upper-body weight on your hands, which becomes tiring, unless you call into play a bunch of little muscles in your back and pelvis, which is even more tiring.

The punishment meted out to your hands and forearms is worsened by the character of the Dunstall handgrips. They are relatively small in diameter, faintly barrel-shaped, and tightly patterned. Without gloves, after a hundred miles or so they begin to feel like wood rasps. With gloves, you're simply left with a pair of very stiff wrists. Stiff, and tired, because the clutch is rather heavy, and the throttle springs are remarkably stout, which an extremely slow throttle does little to alleviate.

Around town, the engine makes up for as much of it as it can. The 810 is a revelation. Bob Trigg's Isolastics have seen to all of the engine vibration. (To find out how much there is, simply prop your foot up on the chaincase at about 35 mph and keep it there. If you can.) Once the carburetors come off idle, metering is accurate enough, and the Dunstall chuffs along quiet, smooth, and sedate as a BMW. Blair's exhaust system for the 810 is a marvel. Two short header pipes converge just in front of the forward engine mount, a single larger tube carries the exhaust below the engine, and it splits back into two mufflers right under the transmission. The mufflers themselves are quite simple; a perforated disc is located up front, perforated tubing lined with fiberglass along the muffler's main body, and a nest of seven

short, small-diameter lengths of tubing at the big end. According to Dunstall, the system is worth five mph in the quarter and five mph on top. It may well be. But performance improvements aside, the pipes are worth their weight in gold in terms of exhaust note and solid noise reduction. In Cycle's decibel test, the 810 registered 88.9 dB(A), or about two decibels more than the two 100cc street machines tested in the March issue, and four decibels less than the Suzuki 380 tested in the same issue. At last! A high-performance exhaust system that honest-to-God muffles!

Enough of city traffic—the 810 can tolerate it, but barely. The bike is noticeably more relaxed romping through mountain roads, banked turns, switchbacks, long straightaways with tight corners at the end where it can show off its superb front brakes. Both nine-inch discs are rigidly mounted—they don't float. Neither do the calipers. But they don't have to, since each caliper assembly has two live pucks. (Which makes Dunstall's installation different from the single disc found on the front of the Honda Fours and the 450 and on the Kawasaki 750 and 500. On the Japanese bikes, the caliper assembly has to pivot, since only one live puck is used.) Both caliper slave cylinders are governed by a single master cylinder with two brake lines. One runs directly to the right caliper; the other incorporates a pressure switch (similar to that on the Hondas) that controls the stop light. Lever pressure is lighter than any of the Hondas or the Kawasakis (or, for that matter, either of the two new Norton Commandos), and braking force was judged to be superior to all. The front tire, a massive 4.10-19 Dunlop Roadmaster K81, is a necessity. The brake demands it. But the tire imposes a penalty of its own: while the 810 steers accurately, it cannot be flicked left-right-left in the manner of some of the more nimble middleweights.

 
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Price, suggested retail

N/A

Tire, front

4.10 in. x 19 in.

rear

410 in. x 19 in.

Brake, front

9.0 (O.D.) in. x 1.25 in. (2)

rear

7.0 in. x 1.25 in.

Engine type

OHV 360° vertical twin

Bore and stroke

2.996 in. x 3.503 in., 76mm x 89mm

Piston displacement

49.2 cu. in., 806cc

Compression ratio

10:1

Carburetion

2; 32mm; Amal concentrics

Air filtration

Paper element

Ignition

Battery and coil

Bhp @ rpm (claimed)

70 @ 7000 rpm

Fuel capacity

5 gal.

Oil capacity

8 pints

Lighting

12v, Alternator

Gear ratios, overall

(1) 11.2 (2) 7.45 (3) 5.35 (4) 4.38

Curb weight

400 lbs., with 1/2-tank of gas

Wheelbase

57 in.

Test weight

565 lbs., with rider

Weight distribution

183 Front, 217 Rear

Gas mileage

41-45 MPG

Sound level, California standard

88.9 dB(A)

Standing start 1/4 mile

12.70 seconds 102.65 mph

 
Giganto front tire or no, a quite peculiar front-end imprecision was noticed at high speed on the drag strip. Static weight distribution is 183 lbs. front and 217 lbs rear. Under hard acceleration midway through third gear, with the rider towards the rear of the seat and down out of the wind, the front end would begin a low frequency, hunting oscillation; the forks were swinging slowly a few degrees to the left and right of dead center, and felt temporarily as if the bike's front-end geometry could have used a little more trail.

It wasn't noticeable in the switchbacks—the 810 is solid as a rock, predictable, forgiving, its engine comfortably free of any soft spots above 3000 rpm, its shift linkage, bellcranks and all, positive and accurate. Only a few nickel-dime disturbances keep it from perfection: throttle action is stiff enough to make accurate downshift/front brake unison a bit of a bother, the rear brake could use some help, and the sidestand and centerstand are abominations. The left-mounted sidestand is useless—it's weak, and it won't get out of the way when fast lefthanders are attempted, grounding well before the tires' limits are approached. The centerstand is not as lethal in a cornering situation; it doesn't drag badly, but its spring isn't strong enough to keep it flat against the motorcycle's belly. In its defense, the bike can be pulled up on its centerstand a lot easier than can a production Norton. Not in its defense, you can't pull it down with your foot, and it looks to be two or three pounds heavier than it has to be.

Out of the mountains and onto the freeways; the tautness of the 810's suspension and the minimal padding of its seat afford slightly less than Moto Guzzi touring pleasure, but at 70 mph, the chest-full of wind you catch is just enough to finally lift the load off your hands and arms. Standard Lucas blade-type switches for turn-indicators and high-low beam selection are a bit punishing to the touch and over-positive, but the indicators (once you get used to up for right and down for left) and the lights work more than passably well. Here the torque of the big Norton is most noticeable. Four thousand rpm corresponds to 70 mph in top, and the Dunstall pulls as hard from 70 mph in fourth as normal 650s and 750s pull from 40 mph in third gear. The 810 kit feels like it really works, and the mufflers will guarantee that you won't blast some blue-haired lady out of her air-conditioned, Thunderbird revery. Again, the engine transmits no vibration through the frame to your fanny, hands, or feet, which more than compensates for the Dunstall's taut suspension on the freeway.

Dunstall equipment is handled in this country by several distributors, one of whom is Barney Tillman in East Los Angeles. Barney set up Cycle's 810, and made a fine job of it, too; just before attacking Orange County International Raceway we returned the Dunstall for a little sharpening, and asked him about the smoke pouring out of the mufflers. He explained that, when Dunstall modifies the cylinder head, he discards the valve seals; as a result, oil runs into the combustion chambers through the intake valve guides. The problem could also have been caused by the oil-control rings. It's not really a major problem, but our 810 needed a quart of 30-Weight about every 90 miles ("Check the gas, and fill up the oil."), and the bike had a tendency to detonate slightly at low speeds under intermediate loading.

The 810 was acceleration-tested in the company of a brand new 750 Kawasaki Three, brought along by the Big K's new American R&D honcho, Bryon Farnsworth, former Cycle staffer and renowned Baja Man of Steel. Like every Norton product tested since 1969, the 810 is a cinch to ride at the drags. Its torque can be called upon to generate just exactly the right amount of wheelspin, its 57-inch wheelbase reduces the possibility of bothersome wheelstands, and Dunstall's rear-set shift apparatus (up for first) just plain makes the 810 easier to ride. The bike also proved to be remarkably consistent: 12.93101.12, 13.02-100.00, 12.97-101.01, and 12.95-100.67. With the air cleaner removed and larger jets installed, the 810 went 12.77-101.58, 12.84-102.15, 12.84102.62, 12.85-102.62, and a final 12.70102.04. Its best trap speeds were attained by leaving the transmission in third all the way through the lights, the engine flattening out right at the ET beam at 7100 rpm. And the bike's freedom from vibration was all the more apparent after a few shots on the Kawasaki, which tends to buzz uncomfortably under full throttle (but which did generate slightly more trap speed than the 810: 103.44 mph).

So much of what's nice about the Dun-stall 810 comes from Norton: its snick-snick transmission, its wondrously strong clutch, its absolute freedom from the punishment of vibration, its precise handling characteristics. But Dunstall has improved it markedly in certain areas: his Dunstall front disc brake is vastly superior to the old Norton drum (and significantly better than even the new Norton disc); his Blair computer-designed exhaust system is so rich of note and so mellow of decibel that every big four-stroke ought to have one, save possibly the already constrained BMW and Moto Guzzi; his fiberglass tank and seat/fender is of a quality seldom seen in the United States, rich, lustrous, light, and strong; and the 810 kit does provide noticeably more torque than a stock 750.

But what of that fabled Dunstall quarter-mile performance? The 810's best numbers were 12.70-102.62, certainly more than presentable insofar as ET is concerned—the 810 is fully three-tenths quicker (with no air-cleaner) than the stock Commando Cycle tested back in March of 1971, an indication of more low-and mid-range grunt—but Dunstall claims an ET of 11.9 for the 810, a time which could only be the product of that Good Dense English Air (the same peculiar atmospheric condition also surrounds certain Japanese test facilities at certain times of the year). The bike may indeed run subtwelve-second quarters but not in the United States, and not at Orange County (one of the very fastest strips in North America), and not in 1972, and not on pump gasoline.

The $295 front brakes? Certainly. The exhaust system? Absolutely. The $260 810 kit? Well, it's worth three-tenths, and it knocks 10 pounds off engine weight, and it's made of aluminum, all of which are worth something.

The rest of it? If you like a street machine that looks like a roadracer, and feels like one, bad aspects as well as good; if you like a big gas tank that you can lock between your knees; then, sure.